As the Romeike family has been asked to leave the United States, a petition was recently started by the Homeschool Legal Defense Association to allow the family to stay put (8 min read.)
It's just incredible. The Biden administration is such a joke -- letting in millions of illegal immigrants and criminals while kicking out good people who are living their best life.
I have some good friends from Germany that I have argued with over this homeschooling issue. It's unfortunate that many Germans think that banning homeschooling is a good idea.
Requiring people to go suffer through Public School indoctrination is just ridiculous.
Thank you for commenting. Removing God from public schools – removing a moral framework aligned with Christianity – was the first coffin nail in the ethos of public school education.
They are so very much more than when I was a kid in a suburban midwest high school.
We had a sit down protest for just one day, and they caved on everything. We went from mystery meat and canned vegetables and tomato surprise to equally nutritionally devoid but much tastier tacos and burgers and pizza, etc.
Academically, we went from English I,II,III, and IV to TV as Mass Media, Creative Writing, Technical Writing, Public Speaking, Major American Authors, etc etc across the board everything transformed from the original 1234 to more specific and useful classes in math and science and history and useful additions like the masculine answer to Home Ec, Bachelor Living.
We also had a heavily wooded No Man's Land with a creek running beside it where students who just weren't in the mood could cut class and drink or smoke or drug with little chance of repercussion.
Nowadays, though the No Man's Land still is by the creek where it always was, it's been so long, so many decades since a student dared venture back there that it is completely overgrown and the creekside utterly inaccessible.
It serves as a physical expression of the regimentation that went into Covid Overdrive these past few years.
And the course line up is a lot more indoctrination oriented, though they surely were getting some good licks in even forty years ago, especially in Social Studies and Sociology.
There were competing voices, though. One English teacher had me reading Atlas Shrugged.
Now they would probably call the FBI to report White Supremacy if suburban teens stepped out of line...
A little secret: Nations do have a National Character.
This sort of thing is very popular and comfortable in the context of German Culture.
People are not the same all over. That's nonsense. Everyone eats, drinks, breathes, sleeps and eliminates. That's about it for universal commonalities.
People aren't even the same in Oklahoma as in NYC, much less are people in Japan the sane as people in Arabia.
The only people who rant about diversity are the ones trying to stamp it out using a people sized cookie cutter.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. A significant difference between German and American attitudes on average is the former has a more authoritarian and top-down approach while the latter is rooted in a bottoms-up system reflected in English Common Law. This decent German family have made it very clear that they want to embrace the opportunities the United States offers – not Germany.
Yeah, I got that. I wasn't trying to be disparaging of them, just responding to someone puzzling over why Germans would generally oppose homeschooling.
I don't blame you for wanting to be sure everyone was clear about these folks you shined a light on.
France and England have been trying to outlaw home schooling. England has also been taking children away from parents and giving them to child sex traffickers. It's a global thing, and the global ruling class has never had a problem with fascism.
"[T]he global ruling class has never had a problem with fascism." Indeed. The ruling classes have no problem with any form of authoritarianism disguised as "safety" and "for the greater good." This is just another reason why the formation and existence of America is almost a miracle (against all odds!) and why those ruling classes want to rip away the 1st and 2nd amendments.
if they are here legally (I suppose on green card) how can they be expelled? or do they not have a green card? marrying an American citizen does not make you a citizen. You still have to wait 3 years and then go through the whole process of citizenship application. Costly, for a large family. I cost me as a single person almost 3000 $ (this includes the 2 times I had to spend the night because I had to be there at 8 in the morning)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. If the father had been granted a green card to date, then the family might be in a different situation. Very sad case of injustice.
I know a couple, a German National and his German American girlfriend.
He has had a Work Visa and been employed as a Master's Degrees Engineer for over a decade.
But he still has to do ridiculous stuff like fly home to Germany for a weekend and then fly back and drive 40 miles to be at work Monday AM.
Stupid as it sounds and is, he has to do it.
And according to his lawyer, in spite of being steadily employed with the same firm all these years, it's not a slam dunk that he would get citizenship.
His English Vocabulary is equal to mine, he is in a demand profession, he has no choice, he needs a Tanning Bed and after toasting himself a more acceptable shade, to sneak into Mexico and come back as Jesus Raimundo Guadeloupe Pedro Alvarez-Montoya.
Way to go! ... I actually think this process may apply to those who are entering legally and are highly vetted, regardless of their country of origin. I knew a Spanish guy and a Chinese guy who worked under a visa; both men had to travel back to their home country and wait until their visa was renewed before returning to the United States. Talk about "catch release," it's more like, "go back if you're legal and wait until we give you permission."
In order to emigrate to Ireland, I would have to prove an independent income of 50K per year.
If I sought Asylum, if they didn't laugh me out if the office for being White and American, I would get out up in a luxury hotel and eat catered meals and be free to wander the country and cause mayhem at will.
A couple months ago, an Irish youth, aged 17, took his autistic little brother to a matinee at the local cinema.
They were harassed by 20 military aged Bulgarians throughout the film .
After the film, outside the cinema, both lads were beaten savagely by the Bulgarians.
Though the whole thing was caught on multiple cameras, and the population of Armagh City, County Armagh, Northern Ireland where it happened is 32K, as yet the authorities have no clue as to which luxury hotel they are housed in.
Meanwhile, the local news leader, Armagh I (i ) is featuring a Hamas Celebration, with dozens of full color photos ...
I appreciate your sharing this story. I am sorry to learn that two youths were harassed and then beaten savagely by military-aged men who were permitted to enter the country. It is bad enough when someone is bullied; worse when the offender is bigger in size and physical strength, and even more frustrating when they happen to be thuggish (from overseas who have been granted permission to reside.)
you can not stay forever undocumented, I know European countries send people back after a certain time - I met a man who worked for the local town, his wife had a job and his 3 kids went to school - but he was gvien 3 months to get back (to former Yugoslavia).
I am not sure about the terms here in the US. Unfortunately once living here, people think they can just stay indefinitely. this family in Belgium thought so too and then was confronted with too short a term to get citizenship. Getting documented is a must. Employment is not a reason to get a green card and has not been for many years. I tried that too - and my husband was a citizen - no good. Immigrating is a delicate process !
My oh my -- you have provided a glimpse into the process of vetted work employment and legal immigration. There is no question there is a dual immigration system in the United States. The illegal, unlawful, yet federal-government-permitted migration is dangerous and largely unvetted.
I would be interested to see a list nationalities legally entering the U.S. for work and/or seeking refugee (say, for religious freedom or economic hardship). There is no shortage of workers from Continental or Eastern Europe in academia or the tech industry, and some (or many) will eventually settle in the U.S. long-term. The question is how their ratio compares to those from other parts of the world, and what proportion are actually applying to work or seek refugee status in the U.S.?
Obumer tried to deport them, but COURTS RULED THEY WERE REFUGEES. Details of the Amish Farmer Story Prove the FDA and USDA Should Be Dissolved Completely
The basic details made me mad. Learning what all was done to this family has me absolutely infuriated.
Germany: Students Arm Themselves Against Muslim Migrants | Frontpage Mag
They are, instead, economic migrants, eager to batten on the benefits that the generous welfare states of western Europe provide. These include free or greatly-subsidized housing, free medical care, free education (including vocational training), unemployment benefits (even without a work history in Europe), family allowances, and more. But for some Muslims, even that largesse is not enough. They want more, and they supplement their welfare benefits with the proceeds from street robberies and house burglaries. Muslims in France, though only 10% of the population, make up 50-60% of the prisoners. In the UK., Muslims are 4% of the population, but 25% of prisoners. In Germany, Muslims are 5% of the population, and 23% of prisoners. Muslims committing crimes of property often use violence to intimidate their victims. In one city in Germany, having lost faith in the police’s ability to adequately protect the population from this Muslim crime wave, older students, and parents, too, have organized patrols and self-defense groups. More on this development can be found here: “Germany: Students arm themselves in city of Halle as violent robberies soar, parents describe ‘broken police force,’” by John Cody, Remix News, September 22, 2023:
Thank you for commenting. If the German government, under E.U. policy, or the U.S. government did not permit entry or have national border security, then those migrants wouldn’t be entering in the first place. Which U.S. or E.U. organization(s) has given a message of “free or greatly-subsidized housing, free medical care, free education (including vocational training), unemployment benefits (even without a work history in Europe), family allowances, and more” to migrants entering a nation unlawfully? If a solid immigration system existed, then any ‘migrant’ would likely come from a middle-class or middle-upper class background, or have an international studentship if poor or lower-middle class. It is very frustrating to learn that there are limited or no restrictions on newcomers, some (or many?) of whom exhibit thuggish leanings.
In stead, we get this. New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said the state identified 18,000 private sector job openings at 379 companies willing to hire illegal migrants and asylum seekers.
That key word is "willing." For many private firms, those "illegal migrants and asylum seekers" represent cheap labor. But I wonder how many U.S.-born millennials and Gen Z-ers would be "willing" to take on blue-collar work. If the welfare system was drastically reduced or limited to, say, the physically disabled and wounded veterans, then most able-bodied youngsters would be compelled to seek work.
My 21-year-old grandson is in an apprenticeship program, he Xrays welds, has passed 3 of his tests, and is studying for #4, he makes good money for a noncollege-educated. And the potential for advancement. Tennessee offers 2 years of junior college depending on HS grade average.
My eldest his dad was throwing newspapers the day he became eligible, at 16. He's worked up to the district manager level for Swiftes a string of gas stations, when he fired a thief/drug user over management hiring practices they fired him, and he started Fast Food management. At 52 he has Type 2 Diabetes, a TIA, last October, still has no DSSI case worker too busy servicing Illegals, and Quad Bypass with a Defivbulator. He won't work again. He'd go back to work if he could. I raised lions, not sheep. And I DO NOT COMPLY well.
Well now, you seem to have entirely missed the point!
The reason these poor souls are incarcerated at such disproportional rates is the selfish European refusal to cut the immigrants in on their fabled Generational Wealth.
Once this Systemic Evil is Equitably Resolved, we can move on to the final enlightened phase we have all been waiting for:
Mass Incarceration of Europeans for violations of Sharia Law.
I hope I have helped you to see the light,to coin a phrase.
Thank you for your additional feedback, John. Could you kindly provide further clarity; it would be immensely appreciated -- anytime! Many thanks again for your insight!
Sadly, it can be summed up very simply. They are white Christians who work and support themselves and will not play the fake voter scam. They are no use to the Biden Administration.
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Given that we are caught up in terms of the history of homeschooling (see here), there is one notable historical anecdote we have left out: the case of Germany, one of few western European countries with a complete ban on homeschooling.
Outrage after German family faces deportation and prosecution over 'home-schooling'
By Jenny Anna Mathew
Published on : 23:09 PST, Sep 25, 2023
Outrage after German family faces deportation and prosecution over 'home-schooling'
The Romeike family fled Germany in 2008 after being threatened with prosecution for homeschooling their children (Screenshot/Fox News)
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NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, (BLUE COUNTY) In a heartbreaking plea, the Romeike family, a Christian family who sought asylum in the US 15 years ago to escape persecution for homeschooling their children in Germany, is now desperately asking for the Biden administration's intervention to prevent deportation, sparking outrage and a debate over education and parental rights.
Uwe and Hannelore Romeike fled Germany with their five children in 2008 after they were threatened with prosecution for homeschooling their children, a practice that is rarely allowed in Germany.
Uwe and Hannelore Romeike fled Germany in 2008 after being fined $9,000
Romeike family struggles over their Christian faith
Political asylum is available to people already in the United States who fear returning to their home country due to actual persecution or who have a well-founded fear of actual persecution because of their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion. Homeschoolers certainly have a “well-founded fear” of persecution in Germany.
It's tragic what's happening to this family and others..
Apparently I didn't copy over the full post I'd made elsewhere, as this was also meant to be included. Story is from 2019 but goes back to 2013. This was of course pre-covid and thus relating to the 2nd link regarding covid changing the parameters, and of their own making.
Another family in Germany who faced the same issue years earlier, that werent' able to escape, as their children had been taken, and even though only briefly didn't have custody to do so. It of course also mentions the Law that they never changed and used to their advantage after the war.
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on Thursday ruled against a German family from the state of Hesse that has been fighting for years for the right to homeschool their children, a practice that is illegal in Germany.
The Wunderlich family had argued that the government had violated Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which guarantees protection for the privacy of home and family life, by forcing their four children to attend a local school.
The court found, however, that the family had not provided sufficient evidence that the children were properly educated and socialized, and that a government removing children from their parents to ensure they receive an education did not violate Article 8.
In their ruling, the ECHR also noted the troubling statement by father Dirk Wunderlich that implied children were the "property" of their parents.
"The authorities...have a duty to protect children," due to "reasonably held concerns," the court noted.
"August 29, 2013, as 40 officials stood before our door, was the most horrible day for us," Dirk Wunderlich told DW. He said the authorities were contacted by neighbors who claimed he had said he would rather kill his children than send them to school.
"What nonsense," said Wunderlich, calling the accusations "invented." Their children were returned to them after three weeks.
Wunderlich and his wife, Petra, are both gardeners, who themselves graduated from a normal high school, which they attended "not reluctantly," Dirk said.
But school has changed since his day, Wunderlich has argued. He believes that now, teachers do less in the classroom and expect children to do most of their work and learning as homework anyway. He further emphasized that he and his wife taught their children with the assistance of a Christian distance-learning school, and had offered to have the relevant authorities check up on them at any time.
He has disputed the allegations that his offspring were not properly socialized, highlighting their participation in various clubs and organizations. He added that he believed the family circle to be the best environment for children.
Dirk Wunderlich said they had considered moving to an EU country in which homeschooling is legal, such as France, but he said they were not allowed to move as they didn't have full custody of the children at that time.
Obligatory schooling has been part of German law continuously since 1919, and is enshrined in several state constitutions as well.
"A general exemption from compulsory education for pedagogical or religious reasons is not allowed," the Conference of German Culture Ministers (KMK) told DW. The rare exceptions are for severe illnesses, the children of diplomats, and in rare instances for working children, such as child actors.
The KMK said it believes there are between 500 and 1,000 cases of parents homeschooling their children across Germany.
While private schooling exists in Germany, it is far less common than in many other countries; German private schools also broadly follow the curriculum of the state where they're based.
Drug dealers and smugglers, you're ok. Terrorists, come on in. Home schoolers, get the fuck out. Pure insanity. Linking tomorrow @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
The government is going to deport a Christian Family who has lived here for 15 years as legal residents, to make room for illegal immigrants who won't assimilate?
Hey, the two youngest are American Citizens by birth. Is the government going to deport citizens to another country?
Fuck this shit, I'll take that German Family over the millions of illegal south American's sneaking across the border. At least this family came in legally.
Indeed! Many families continue to immigrate legally and are vetted thoroughly.
This is a very, very sad case. A decent, law-abiding family who should have been granted citizenship, lawful permanent residency and/or a green card by now.
Fascists and Nazis work always close together, they are of the same fabric!
The fascist regime of the Biden crime family loves to cooperate with Nazis. Not only in Ukraine trying to start WW III, but also on the smallest grassroots level.
Honest people as the Romeike family should be handed over to the German Nazi regime run by the tax fraud criminal Scholz.
It’s time to stop the western fascist Nazi terrorism called “Western World” and to stand up against this government terrorists.
Thank you for writing about this! The local TV media, such as WBIR, have been showing the story. It's an example of straining at a gnat, and swallowing a camel. The southern border is wide open, but one family could be deported? Amazing!
Thank you very much for commenting! I hear you loud and clear. "The southern border is wide open, but one family could be deported?" Mind boggling, right?
Another family in Germany who faced the same issue years earlier, that werent' able to escape, as their children had been taken, and even though only briefly didn't have custody to do so. It of course also mentions the Law that they never changed and used to their advantage after the war.
But school has changed since his day, Wunderlich has argued. He believes that now, teachers do less in the classroom and expect children to do most of their work and learning as homework anyway. He further emphasized that he and his wife taught their children with the assistance of a Christian distance-learning school, and had offered to have the relevant authorities check up on them at any time.
Thank you for commenting! I really appreciate your sharing this story. Many of us take our homeschooling opportunities for granted, particularly as it is rooted in the culture that originated in England and spread across the Anglosphere. Many countries worldwide, Europe included, have heavy restrictions or have banned homeschooling altogether. https://hslda.org/legal/international
I was wondering why this story wasn't in my other post, I didn't realize I did it seperately, as it related to the second link regarding how they required home shcooling of their making, though still not meant to be done separate from State objectives I'm sure.
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It's pretty obvious Biden Admin has decided to go with a brave front.
Lots of people are saying it's all over and they won.
Which is exactly the belief they want to engender do that no one will even try to effect change for fear of persecution.
Everyone needs to get more serious about everything and get this tide turned.
There must be a list of (R) who voted to keep China Joe's show on the road . They all need a bunch of losses when the cone up for re election. Meanwhile, a lot of irate letters from citizens promising those losses.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I think we can do our small part in demanding our elected officials do more to enforce law & order, border security and a fair immigration system. Elected Republicans need to take ACTION and not mere fear-mongering language. Right now, there is a dual immigration system running in the United States--one is safe, legal and doesn’t require paying a coyote. However, it seems to unjustly discriminate against law-abiding Christian homeschoolers.
I agree on your point about families in America should be free to raise their children in ways they deem appropriate, and if they choose to home school them, they should not be persecuted for this. Is this not a Free society that our forefathers fought for? Honestly, if you look and listen to the Biden admin., you’d swear we were socialists! Mandate this, and outlaw that! For this reason sleepy Joe has got to go! All this said, and all my kids are public schooled, but I don’t push this down everyone’s throat!
Thank you for commenting. I hear you loud and clear. We need to push back by constantly reinforcing our rights and responsibilities through peaceful civil disobedience.
It's just incredible. The Biden administration is such a joke -- letting in millions of illegal immigrants and criminals while kicking out good people who are living their best life.
I have some good friends from Germany that I have argued with over this homeschooling issue. It's unfortunate that many Germans think that banning homeschooling is a good idea.
Requiring people to go suffer through Public School indoctrination is just ridiculous.
Public schools are obedience schools.
Thank you for commenting. Removing God from public schools – removing a moral framework aligned with Christianity – was the first coffin nail in the ethos of public school education.
The last nail was the creation of the Department of Education.
Except it was sort of the same nail, kind of, if you can see what I mean.
Very true. The Prussian model is only about creating followers.
They are so very much more than when I was a kid in a suburban midwest high school.
We had a sit down protest for just one day, and they caved on everything. We went from mystery meat and canned vegetables and tomato surprise to equally nutritionally devoid but much tastier tacos and burgers and pizza, etc.
Academically, we went from English I,II,III, and IV to TV as Mass Media, Creative Writing, Technical Writing, Public Speaking, Major American Authors, etc etc across the board everything transformed from the original 1234 to more specific and useful classes in math and science and history and useful additions like the masculine answer to Home Ec, Bachelor Living.
We also had a heavily wooded No Man's Land with a creek running beside it where students who just weren't in the mood could cut class and drink or smoke or drug with little chance of repercussion.
Nowadays, though the No Man's Land still is by the creek where it always was, it's been so long, so many decades since a student dared venture back there that it is completely overgrown and the creekside utterly inaccessible.
It serves as a physical expression of the regimentation that went into Covid Overdrive these past few years.
And the course line up is a lot more indoctrination oriented, though they surely were getting some good licks in even forty years ago, especially in Social Studies and Sociology.
There were competing voices, though. One English teacher had me reading Atlas Shrugged.
Now they would probably call the FBI to report White Supremacy if suburban teens stepped out of line...
A little secret: Nations do have a National Character.
This sort of thing is very popular and comfortable in the context of German Culture.
People are not the same all over. That's nonsense. Everyone eats, drinks, breathes, sleeps and eliminates. That's about it for universal commonalities.
People aren't even the same in Oklahoma as in NYC, much less are people in Japan the sane as people in Arabia.
The only people who rant about diversity are the ones trying to stamp it out using a people sized cookie cutter.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. A significant difference between German and American attitudes on average is the former has a more authoritarian and top-down approach while the latter is rooted in a bottoms-up system reflected in English Common Law. This decent German family have made it very clear that they want to embrace the opportunities the United States offers – not Germany.
Yeah, I got that. I wasn't trying to be disparaging of them, just responding to someone puzzling over why Germans would generally oppose homeschooling.
I don't blame you for wanting to be sure everyone was clear about these folks you shined a light on.
Lots of haters around, even on the Stacks...
France and England have been trying to outlaw home schooling. England has also been taking children away from parents and giving them to child sex traffickers. It's a global thing, and the global ruling class has never had a problem with fascism.
"[T]he global ruling class has never had a problem with fascism." Indeed. The ruling classes have no problem with any form of authoritarianism disguised as "safety" and "for the greater good." This is just another reason why the formation and existence of America is almost a miracle (against all odds!) and why those ruling classes want to rip away the 1st and 2nd amendments.
Cromwell did it in Ireland too, but it's White Supremacy to speak of it, it might distract the spotlight from the only official inheritors of slavery.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I hear you loud and clear. 100%.
Thank you for commenting and sharing your thoughts.
The ironies are too numerous to list.
Indeed.
(But feel welcome to list them, anytime.)
if they are here legally (I suppose on green card) how can they be expelled? or do they not have a green card? marrying an American citizen does not make you a citizen. You still have to wait 3 years and then go through the whole process of citizenship application. Costly, for a large family. I cost me as a single person almost 3000 $ (this includes the 2 times I had to spend the night because I had to be there at 8 in the morning)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. If the father had been granted a green card to date, then the family might be in a different situation. Very sad case of injustice.
He is out of fashion.
He hasn't the right Paint Job.
I know a couple, a German National and his German American girlfriend.
He has had a Work Visa and been employed as a Master's Degrees Engineer for over a decade.
But he still has to do ridiculous stuff like fly home to Germany for a weekend and then fly back and drive 40 miles to be at work Monday AM.
Stupid as it sounds and is, he has to do it.
And according to his lawyer, in spite of being steadily employed with the same firm all these years, it's not a slam dunk that he would get citizenship.
His English Vocabulary is equal to mine, he is in a demand profession, he has no choice, he needs a Tanning Bed and after toasting himself a more acceptable shade, to sneak into Mexico and come back as Jesus Raimundo Guadeloupe Pedro Alvarez-Montoya.
Way to go! ... I actually think this process may apply to those who are entering legally and are highly vetted, regardless of their country of origin. I knew a Spanish guy and a Chinese guy who worked under a visa; both men had to travel back to their home country and wait until their visa was renewed before returning to the United States. Talk about "catch release," it's more like, "go back if you're legal and wait until we give you permission."
In order to emigrate to Ireland, I would have to prove an independent income of 50K per year.
If I sought Asylum, if they didn't laugh me out if the office for being White and American, I would get out up in a luxury hotel and eat catered meals and be free to wander the country and cause mayhem at will.
A couple months ago, an Irish youth, aged 17, took his autistic little brother to a matinee at the local cinema.
They were harassed by 20 military aged Bulgarians throughout the film .
After the film, outside the cinema, both lads were beaten savagely by the Bulgarians.
Though the whole thing was caught on multiple cameras, and the population of Armagh City, County Armagh, Northern Ireland where it happened is 32K, as yet the authorities have no clue as to which luxury hotel they are housed in.
Meanwhile, the local news leader, Armagh I (i ) is featuring a Hamas Celebration, with dozens of full color photos ...
I appreciate your sharing this story. I am sorry to learn that two youths were harassed and then beaten savagely by military-aged men who were permitted to enter the country. It is bad enough when someone is bullied; worse when the offender is bigger in size and physical strength, and even more frustrating when they happen to be thuggish (from overseas who have been granted permission to reside.)
They were originally Assyulm seekers, would not a Green Card be needed after the husband found employment as a pianist at a American Univeristy?
I live in Tennessee which is a Red State, with 4 blue counties who think they are Above State Law and ignore it.
Germany Fined them to boot.
Germany Fined them to boot.
Asylum, Sara Carter https://saraacarter.com/german-homeschooling-family-in-tennessee-faces-deportation-after-15-years/
Christianity Today.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/september/germany-homeschool-family-deportation-christian-romeike.html
you can not stay forever undocumented, I know European countries send people back after a certain time - I met a man who worked for the local town, his wife had a job and his 3 kids went to school - but he was gvien 3 months to get back (to former Yugoslavia).
I am not sure about the terms here in the US. Unfortunately once living here, people think they can just stay indefinitely. this family in Belgium thought so too and then was confronted with too short a term to get citizenship. Getting documented is a must. Employment is not a reason to get a green card and has not been for many years. I tried that too - and my husband was a citizen - no good. Immigrating is a delicate process !
My oh my -- you have provided a glimpse into the process of vetted work employment and legal immigration. There is no question there is a dual immigration system in the United States. The illegal, unlawful, yet federal-government-permitted migration is dangerous and largely unvetted.
They will notice and look unfavorably upon you if you are white with technical skills, though.
I would be interested to see a list nationalities legally entering the U.S. for work and/or seeking refugee (say, for religious freedom or economic hardship). There is no shortage of workers from Continental or Eastern Europe in academia or the tech industry, and some (or many) will eventually settle in the U.S. long-term. The question is how their ratio compares to those from other parts of the world, and what proportion are actually applying to work or seek refugee status in the U.S.?
Thank for sharing further insight on this family's situation.
Obumer tried to deport them, but COURTS RULED THEY WERE REFUGEES. Details of the Amish Farmer Story Prove the FDA and USDA Should Be Dissolved Completely
The basic details made me mad. Learning what all was done to this family has me absolutely infuriated.
https://jdrucker.substack.com/p/details-of-the-amish-farmer-story
"The basic details made me mad. Learning what all was done to this family has me absolutely infuriated." I hear you.
Germany: Students Arm Themselves Against Muslim Migrants | Frontpage Mag
They are, instead, economic migrants, eager to batten on the benefits that the generous welfare states of western Europe provide. These include free or greatly-subsidized housing, free medical care, free education (including vocational training), unemployment benefits (even without a work history in Europe), family allowances, and more. But for some Muslims, even that largesse is not enough. They want more, and they supplement their welfare benefits with the proceeds from street robberies and house burglaries. Muslims in France, though only 10% of the population, make up 50-60% of the prisoners. In the UK., Muslims are 4% of the population, but 25% of prisoners. In Germany, Muslims are 5% of the population, and 23% of prisoners. Muslims committing crimes of property often use violence to intimidate their victims. In one city in Germany, having lost faith in the police’s ability to adequately protect the population from this Muslim crime wave, older students, and parents, too, have organized patrols and self-defense groups. More on this development can be found here: “Germany: Students arm themselves in city of Halle as violent robberies soar, parents describe ‘broken police force,’” by John Cody, Remix News, September 22, 2023:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/germany-students-arm-themselves-against-muslim-migrants/
Thank you for commenting. If the German government, under E.U. policy, or the U.S. government did not permit entry or have national border security, then those migrants wouldn’t be entering in the first place. Which U.S. or E.U. organization(s) has given a message of “free or greatly-subsidized housing, free medical care, free education (including vocational training), unemployment benefits (even without a work history in Europe), family allowances, and more” to migrants entering a nation unlawfully? If a solid immigration system existed, then any ‘migrant’ would likely come from a middle-class or middle-upper class background, or have an international studentship if poor or lower-middle class. It is very frustrating to learn that there are limited or no restrictions on newcomers, some (or many?) of whom exhibit thuggish leanings.
In stead, we get this. New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said the state identified 18,000 private sector job openings at 379 companies willing to hire illegal migrants and asylum seekers.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-gov-hochul-announces-18000-jobs-asylum-seekers-citys-migrant-influx-exceeds-125000-people
That key word is "willing." For many private firms, those "illegal migrants and asylum seekers" represent cheap labor. But I wonder how many U.S.-born millennials and Gen Z-ers would be "willing" to take on blue-collar work. If the welfare system was drastically reduced or limited to, say, the physically disabled and wounded veterans, then most able-bodied youngsters would be compelled to seek work.
My 21-year-old grandson is in an apprenticeship program, he Xrays welds, has passed 3 of his tests, and is studying for #4, he makes good money for a noncollege-educated. And the potential for advancement. Tennessee offers 2 years of junior college depending on HS grade average.
Kudos to your 21-year-old grandson! America needs more young men like him!
My eldest his dad was throwing newspapers the day he became eligible, at 16. He's worked up to the district manager level for Swiftes a string of gas stations, when he fired a thief/drug user over management hiring practices they fired him, and he started Fast Food management. At 52 he has Type 2 Diabetes, a TIA, last October, still has no DSSI case worker too busy servicing Illegals, and Quad Bypass with a Defivbulator. He won't work again. He'd go back to work if he could. I raised lions, not sheep. And I DO NOT COMPLY well.
Well now, you seem to have entirely missed the point!
The reason these poor souls are incarcerated at such disproportional rates is the selfish European refusal to cut the immigrants in on their fabled Generational Wealth.
Once this Systemic Evil is Equitably Resolved, we can move on to the final enlightened phase we have all been waiting for:
Mass Incarceration of Europeans for violations of Sharia Law.
I hope I have helped you to see the light,to coin a phrase.
Thank you for your additional feedback, John. Could you kindly provide further clarity; it would be immensely appreciated -- anytime! Many thanks again for your insight!
Sadly, it can be summed up very simply. They are white Christians who work and support themselves and will not play the fake voter scam. They are no use to the Biden Administration.
Also, they are not a source of cheap labor to corporate America.
Details of the Amish Farmer Story Prove the FDA and USDA Should Be Dissolved Completely
The basic details made me mad. Learning what all was done to this family has me absolutely infuriated.
https://jdrucker.substack.com/p/details-of-the-amish-farmer-story
German Leftists Freak Out and Call for Censorship After Elon Musk Points Out 8 German NGO Ships Are Dumping Illegal Aliens into Italy and Germany's Conservative AfD Party Wants It to Stop
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/german-leftists-freak-call-censorship-after-elon-musk/
More on the homeschooling issue in Germany.
Given that we are caught up in terms of the history of homeschooling (see here), there is one notable historical anecdote we have left out: the case of Germany, one of few western European countries with a complete ban on homeschooling.
https://thinkingwest.com/2020/06/22/nazi-ban-homeschooling/
They obviously kept it in place after WWII
Nazi law prohibited homeschooling in Germany. Coronavirus has made that unenforceable
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/nazi-law-prohibited-homeschooling-in-germany-coronavirus-has-made-that-unenforceable/
Thank you for commenting and providing further information on Germany’s ban on homeschooling.
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Outrage after German family faces deportation and prosecution over 'home-schooling'
By Jenny Anna Mathew
Published on : 23:09 PST, Sep 25, 2023
Outrage after German family faces deportation and prosecution over 'home-schooling'
The Romeike family fled Germany in 2008 after being threatened with prosecution for homeschooling their children (Screenshot/Fox News)
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NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, (BLUE COUNTY) In a heartbreaking plea, the Romeike family, a Christian family who sought asylum in the US 15 years ago to escape persecution for homeschooling their children in Germany, is now desperately asking for the Biden administration's intervention to prevent deportation, sparking outrage and a debate over education and parental rights.
Uwe and Hannelore Romeike fled Germany with their five children in 2008 after they were threatened with prosecution for homeschooling their children, a practice that is rarely allowed in Germany.
Uwe and Hannelore Romeike fled Germany in 2008 after being fined $9,000
Romeike family struggles over their Christian faith
https://meaww.com/outrage-after-german-family-faces-deportation-and-prosecution-over-home-schooling
Other families face persecution too.
HSLDA Files Asylum Application for German Homeschool Family
Homeschool Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) is supporting a first-of-its kind application for political asylum by a German homeschooling family.
https://hslda.org/post/hslda-files-asylum-application-for-german-homeschool-family
Political asylum is available to people already in the United States who fear returning to their home country due to actual persecution or who have a well-founded fear of actual persecution because of their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion. Homeschoolers certainly have a “well-founded fear” of persecution in Germany.
It's tragic what's happening to this family and others..
Apparently I didn't copy over the full post I'd made elsewhere, as this was also meant to be included. Story is from 2019 but goes back to 2013. This was of course pre-covid and thus relating to the 2nd link regarding covid changing the parameters, and of their own making.
Another family in Germany who faced the same issue years earlier, that werent' able to escape, as their children had been taken, and even though only briefly didn't have custody to do so. It of course also mentions the Law that they never changed and used to their advantage after the war.
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on Thursday ruled against a German family from the state of Hesse that has been fighting for years for the right to homeschool their children, a practice that is illegal in Germany.
The Wunderlich family had argued that the government had violated Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which guarantees protection for the privacy of home and family life, by forcing their four children to attend a local school.
The court found, however, that the family had not provided sufficient evidence that the children were properly educated and socialized, and that a government removing children from their parents to ensure they receive an education did not violate Article 8.
In their ruling, the ECHR also noted the troubling statement by father Dirk Wunderlich that implied children were the "property" of their parents.
"The authorities...have a duty to protect children," due to "reasonably held concerns," the court noted.
"August 29, 2013, as 40 officials stood before our door, was the most horrible day for us," Dirk Wunderlich told DW. He said the authorities were contacted by neighbors who claimed he had said he would rather kill his children than send them to school.
"What nonsense," said Wunderlich, calling the accusations "invented." Their children were returned to them after three weeks.
Wunderlich and his wife, Petra, are both gardeners, who themselves graduated from a normal high school, which they attended "not reluctantly," Dirk said.
But school has changed since his day, Wunderlich has argued. He believes that now, teachers do less in the classroom and expect children to do most of their work and learning as homework anyway. He further emphasized that he and his wife taught their children with the assistance of a Christian distance-learning school, and had offered to have the relevant authorities check up on them at any time.
He has disputed the allegations that his offspring were not properly socialized, highlighting their participation in various clubs and organizations. He added that he believed the family circle to be the best environment for children.
Dirk Wunderlich said they had considered moving to an EU country in which homeschooling is legal, such as France, but he said they were not allowed to move as they didn't have full custody of the children at that time.
Obligatory schooling has been part of German law continuously since 1919, and is enshrined in several state constitutions as well.
"A general exemption from compulsory education for pedagogical or religious reasons is not allowed," the Conference of German Culture Ministers (KMK) told DW. The rare exceptions are for severe illnesses, the children of diplomats, and in rare instances for working children, such as child actors.
The KMK said it believes there are between 500 and 1,000 cases of parents homeschooling their children across Germany.
While private schooling exists in Germany, it is far less common than in many other countries; German private schools also broadly follow the curriculum of the state where they're based.
https://www.dw.com/en/european-court-rules-against-german-homeschooling-family/a-47021333
Drug dealers and smugglers, you're ok. Terrorists, come on in. Home schoolers, get the fuck out. Pure insanity. Linking tomorrow @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
Thank you for your feedback! I appreciate your linking my article!
The government is going to deport a Christian Family who has lived here for 15 years as legal residents, to make room for illegal immigrants who won't assimilate?
Hey, the two youngest are American Citizens by birth. Is the government going to deport citizens to another country?
Fuck this shit, I'll take that German Family over the millions of illegal south American's sneaking across the border. At least this family came in legally.
A WORKING, TAX PAYING FAMILY. TO BOOT.
Indeed! Many families continue to immigrate legally and are vetted thoroughly.
This is a very, very sad case. A decent, law-abiding family who should have been granted citizenship, lawful permanent residency and/or a green card by now.
Fascists and Nazis work always close together, they are of the same fabric!
The fascist regime of the Biden crime family loves to cooperate with Nazis. Not only in Ukraine trying to start WW III, but also on the smallest grassroots level.
Honest people as the Romeike family should be handed over to the German Nazi regime run by the tax fraud criminal Scholz.
It’s time to stop the western fascist Nazi terrorism called “Western World” and to stand up against this government terrorists.
Thank you for commenting. Well said.
The elites don't like Christians very much.
True. They don't.
Thank you for writing about this! The local TV media, such as WBIR, have been showing the story. It's an example of straining at a gnat, and swallowing a camel. The southern border is wide open, but one family could be deported? Amazing!
Thank you very much for commenting! I hear you loud and clear. "The southern border is wide open, but one family could be deported?" Mind boggling, right?
Another family in Germany who faced the same issue years earlier, that werent' able to escape, as their children had been taken, and even though only briefly didn't have custody to do so. It of course also mentions the Law that they never changed and used to their advantage after the war.
But school has changed since his day, Wunderlich has argued. He believes that now, teachers do less in the classroom and expect children to do most of their work and learning as homework anyway. He further emphasized that he and his wife taught their children with the assistance of a Christian distance-learning school, and had offered to have the relevant authorities check up on them at any time.
https://www.dw.com/en/european-court-rules-against-german-homeschooling-family/a-47021333
Thank you for commenting! I really appreciate your sharing this story. Many of us take our homeschooling opportunities for granted, particularly as it is rooted in the culture that originated in England and spread across the Anglosphere. Many countries worldwide, Europe included, have heavy restrictions or have banned homeschooling altogether. https://hslda.org/legal/international
I was wondering why this story wasn't in my other post, I didn't realize I did it seperately, as it related to the second link regarding how they required home shcooling of their making, though still not meant to be done separate from State objectives I'm sure.
It's pretty obvious Biden Admin has decided to go with a brave front.
Lots of people are saying it's all over and they won.
Which is exactly the belief they want to engender do that no one will even try to effect change for fear of persecution.
Everyone needs to get more serious about everything and get this tide turned.
There must be a list of (R) who voted to keep China Joe's show on the road . They all need a bunch of losses when the cone up for re election. Meanwhile, a lot of irate letters from citizens promising those losses.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I think we can do our small part in demanding our elected officials do more to enforce law & order, border security and a fair immigration system. Elected Republicans need to take ACTION and not mere fear-mongering language. Right now, there is a dual immigration system running in the United States--one is safe, legal and doesn’t require paying a coyote. However, it seems to unjustly discriminate against law-abiding Christian homeschoolers.
Well, thanks for the article.
We have a perfect example in Matt Gaetz.
He made this big drama over making McCarthy Speaker, cresting with the one vote removal.
Now he says he knows there is no real chance to get the votes to actually remove McCarthy
It was just another governmental dramatic presentation, like 1/6 and so many others.
I have never. been so happy and surprised to be wrong.
Gaetz actually got it done.
I agree on your point about families in America should be free to raise their children in ways they deem appropriate, and if they choose to home school them, they should not be persecuted for this. Is this not a Free society that our forefathers fought for? Honestly, if you look and listen to the Biden admin., you’d swear we were socialists! Mandate this, and outlaw that! For this reason sleepy Joe has got to go! All this said, and all my kids are public schooled, but I don’t push this down everyone’s throat!
Thank you for commenting. I hear you loud and clear. We need to push back by constantly reinforcing our rights and responsibilities through peaceful civil disobedience.