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We The People's avatar

They already have artificial clinical trials with artificial results so why not go the whole hog and have artificial patients. Makes sense if you are a psychopath.

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jean's avatar

Nuts, crazy, demented and insane the B-movie mad scientists.

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Ruth H's avatar

From no real data, no long term trials, corrupted results, hidden side effects to now artificial patients. They can spin their lies quicker and push their dangerous drugs and vaccines, but we all must say NO.

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Thank you for commenting! Indeed, we must say "NO!" But more forcefully, so must biomedical and pharmaceutical scientists. They must put their foot down and demand that actual patients be recruited for clinical trials.

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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

Let's just do away with all pharma products.

Edit: there could possibly be a couple of exceptions.

LOL

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Edwin's avatar

Only our Big Pharma could come up with this.

But with 'increased profits' the sky is the limit.

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Indeed.

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David Wolosik's avatar

Drawing an analogy here, it sounds to me like the same nonsense as climate models which for the most part start from pre ordained conclusions so arrive at the desired results with no resemblance to reality or science.

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JudyC's avatar

Bingo, David!

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Thank you for commenting! I appreciate the analogy. Indeed, there is a suspicion among many that AI technology can be used to achieve "pre ordained conclusions" by organizations or institutions that harbor individuals who, with a sense of evil righteousness, believe they are helping or saving humanity.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Big Pharma and the WEF live in a fantasy world unrelated to human health and well-being.

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Thank you for commenting! As much as the likes of Big Pharma and WEF might live in a "fantasy world," they are hell-bent on making their shared vision, that "fantasy," a reality. Our collective awareness is a stepping stone to make positive changes for current and future generations.

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Brent Carlson's avatar

The problem with this stupid idea is most people will actually think “it sure is high tech duhhhh” or not even give a damn. There are a lot of stupids and lazy out there.

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Thank you for commenting! If, by "most people," you are referring to scientists within clinical research and drug development, I suspect many are largely uninformed about how AI technology is designed and developed. They might naively trust or be indifferent towards their medical institutions or pharma companies and, to your point, support new developments, e.g., "anything that makes our lives easier!"

With the above said, I would be curious to review a survey or poll on biomedical or pharmaceutical scientists' thoughts on replacing patients with AI-generated synthetic data.

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Brent Carlson's avatar

Well said. But it’s not only the so called scientists within the research of pharmaceutical drugs but also the public. Most trust the medical establishment and take as the gospel what is being developed. As you stated “anything to make life easier”. The public doesn’t care or have the initiative to look at what is happening concerning our health. Anyone who believes AI can simulate the human bodies reaction to a drug no matter the amount of data put into the AI program is brainwashed, a moron or lazy.

The trust in AI is rapidly becoming seen as a savior. I’m worried about the nefarious ways it can be used against people.

Or maybe I am just a conspiracy theorist

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

You hit the nail on the head with, "Most [people] trust the medical establishment and take as the gospel what is being developed." Nearly every person (I know) who suffered an adverse reaction following their COVID jab followed their physician's "trusted recommendation" and/or trusted the FDA leadership.

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JudyC's avatar

It’s not hard to be stupid!

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Chief Wolf's avatar

SNUFF WEF

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Okay. And what about the governments and various private institutions who willfully support, collaborate with, and align in global vision with the WEF? As you and many might know, the WEF is arguably one of many "not-for-profit" organizations that express ideas that are ultimately anti-individualism and deprived of individual freedoms such as owning property, i.e., "our goals are for the greater good."

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Chief Wolf's avatar

SNUFF EM ALL ,EVERY SINGLE EVIL

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James Mangano's avatar

Subtly: cleverly and indirectly, difficult to notice.

Sadly, the term "being Human" is becoming obsolete. Subtly being replaced with, "being artificial". Meaning, that Al (the wicked) is quietly making the artificial more important than humans, and this my dear friends is evil.

"The LORD sustains the humble but casts the wicked to the ground." Psalm 147:6 NIV.

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Thank you for commenting.

I hear you loud and clear, James.

Which is why I try to emphasize the importance of connecting with ourselves on a mental, physical and spiritual level.

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Bert Powers's avatar

Even the most creative science fiction, writer could not have come up with a scenario as weird as this. We are heading into some uncharted waters, and it’s going to be a very strange world here real soon.

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Thank you for commenting! I suspect some writers or "visionaries" in the technology sphere might have entertained such scenarios. Human nature will always choose the path of least resistance. Thus, they will argue that "artificial patients" make everyone's life more convenient and equitable -- including the pharmaceutical scientists and drug companies, and the patients who might receive new medicine tested on synthetic data -- by cutting participant recruitment costs and accelerating the process towards commercialization.

Some "visionaries," with a sense of intellectual and moral superiority, will arrogantly believe their ideas will "save humanity." Ironically, such decision-making will only fuel health problems due to dangerously unreliable results from AI-generated "patients" in clinical trials.

We already use animals, such as mice, as the preferred species for biomedical research due to their anatomical, physiological and genetic similarity to humans. But we need real human beings to test medicine developed for real human beings -- and we need more, not less.

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Bert Powers's avatar

That paints a very bleak future, but it is probably not too far from the truth. Anything is possible from these idiot elitists.

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Noel Spangler's avatar

This is news to me! I imagine trial results would be easier to manipulate or "fix" in the manufacturer's favor this way. What's next? Artificial evidence for criminal trials?

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Thank you for commenting! You've touched upon a key suspicion among many readers, in that the clinical trial results "would be easier to manipulate ... in the manufacturer's favor this way."

As for "artificial evidence" for criminal trials, I came across the following as of late:

1. https://judicature.duke.edu/articles/artificial-justice-the-quandary-of-ai-in-the-courtroom/

2. https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/njtip/vol19/iss1/2/

3. https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/burden-of-proof-the-impact-a-i-has-on-the-court-system"

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Noel Spangler's avatar

Thanks, that's interesting... I didn't realize that was a big subject of discussion already.

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KellyG's avatar

Nice, now they will use artificial patients to base our treatment on. If it worked on them, it surely will work on us, and they can prescribe their poisonous drugs on us at will.

At least for those willing to take them

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Susan's avatar

Insane! A script can be generated for any desired outcome. Hence all this is useless. We’re on our own humans!

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Thank you for commenting! You've touched upon a key point, in that a script or program can be easily tailored to suit a particular bias, i.e., the desired outcome of an agenda. The power of technology, AI in this instance, can be powered to support humanity in multiple ways. But replacing actual people with "synthetic patients" is a very dangerous journey to embark upon.

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Chief Wolf's avatar

AN A-I SCRIPT GENERALLY AGAINST MANKIND

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Jeannon Kralj's avatar

Great article about fake science and fake diseases and fake studies of fake drugs and fake governmental agencies full of fallen fearful idolatrous humans.

Let’s unpack the following statement a bit.

““supposedly “change the way clinical trials are performed in common and rare diseases, lowering their cost and improving how new treatments are tested.”

“the way clinical trials are performed”

are part the maker (examples Pfizer, Moderna etc.) of the pharmaceutical product under study in the “clinical trial” overall plan for the product assuming the product successfully passes, not fails, all three of the phases of a “clinical trial.”

The way a “clinical trial” is performed is a moot point or a nonstarter if the clinical trial is not a clinical trial at all, to begin with.

The “clinical trials” of ALL of the BigPharma companies brands of ’ “COVID-19 vaccines”were not what “clinical trials” are or at least not what “clinical trials” are purported to be. There are honest “real” clinical trials and there are fake “lie” clinical trials. And there are real clinical trials that are honestly sloppy clinical trials. And there are deliberately “sloppy” clinical trials that are fraudulent clinical trials. “Fraud vitiates everything”, legally speaking that is.

“performed in common and rare diseases”

COVID-19 is claimed to be the disease condition caused by SARS-CoV-2. SARS CoV-2 is purported to be a “novel zoonotic virus of the corona virus kind”

The product under study, the “vaccine” formula under study in the “clinical trial” is supposed to contain a bit of the actual SARS-CoV 2 pathogen purported to be the “pathogen from nature” upon which the vaccine formula was based.

That is which there needed to be some word crafting on the word “vaccines” and the terms “clinical trial” and “from nature” because no study anywhere of any kind on any “COVID-19 vaccine”product has used any part, any genetic sequence of the SARS-CoV 2 pathogen. That is why the definitions of “vaccine” and “virus” changed a few times over the progression of the “pandemic”. There are no actual squishy specimens of SARS-CoV-2, only squishy definitions of words and terms. And that is one of the reasons why the term “SARS CoV-2” can be questioned and debated to be “not a virus” and “not a ‘from nature’ pathogen. Just give words and phrases word labels according to what you want them to be understood as. (Dr. Michael Yeadon PhD gave particular note to the descripter term applied for SARS-CoV-2, “novel”, meaning new, not common and rare.)

I won’t even get started on safety and efficacy.

God bless us each and every one in the Name of the One Who is Truth.

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Dear Rest Of America's avatar

Thank you for analyzing the article and contributing your thoughts and insights. Your participation is appreciated, and welcome to the Dear Rest Of Amercia (DROA) community!

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Jerry's avatar

Every day I try to remember the name of that science fiction story about the planet where everyone is insane and no one recognizes this fact because everyone is insane. Is there such a story? Or are we collectively creating that story?

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Peter Daniel Miller's avatar

This is very interesting! Surprising myself, I did not immediately react negatively to the notion of substituting artificial for real patients in clinical trials. In the hierarchy of medical evils, it seems less evil than running a clinical trial on five billion real people, as the covidians did. I'll have to re-read and think more on this, but even given the horrible WEF provenance of the developers of AI-driven clinical trials, perhaps some good could come out of that particular brand of evil?

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Jim McCraigh's avatar

And the wicked will continue to be wicked because they are blind to the truth. Artificial intelligence is not all that smart... but they don't care. So sad what things have come to.

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